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they were living in. they had to reflect the diversity of their workforce. it was a civil rights issue and also a business efficiency issue. we were dealing with domestic partnerships in other ways of trying to provide benefits and it was a complicated issue especially for companies with operations in multiple states. the feeling was let's do the right thing here, right for business, right for the human relations department, right for hiring right for retention right for civil rights. >> michael: your group, the chamber has supported gay marriage and gavin newsome battled to support it in francisco. was it a challenge to get people to agree to that? >> initially you might have thought like i did that maybe this was an issue that the community would not weigh in on. it was a non-direct business issue. we took it to public policy process with dozens of members who helped to form our public policy position to our board of directors over 06 members. unanimously directed the chamber to weigh in in the litigation of 2007, and we continue to do that on the most recent litigation. and it wasn'
series on civil rights continues with filmmaker, keith beauchamp. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ >> michael: a federal judge began hearing testimony today to determine if policemen have been stopping people unconstitutionally. defenders of the program state has brought down gun violence but they say at its core it is racial profiling that violates the constitution. joining me now is keith beauchamp, keith direct theed the documentary "the untold story of emmett louis till" and hosts the "the injustice files: hood of suspicion" which examines contemporary cases of racial profiling. keith welcome to "the war room." >> thank you for having me. >> michael: keith, new york saw 419 murders last year. the lowest numbers since record keeping began in the 1960s, so is this a small price to pay for a safer community? >> i think it causes a bigger problem. you are talk about statistically if you look at these cases out of 1 in 1,000 cases of those stops, you have actual gun violations. when you take a look at the percentage of those being stopped, out of 90% there are no arrest o
like this. it's a civil rights case, it seems like that would be the legacy that they want. but more curious things have happened in this court. let's go to doma for a second. >> the importance of doma says the federal government cannot deny federal benefits to people just because they are involved in a same-sex marriage. every single issue we are concerned about, whether it's lbgt worker's women boment baum care, all of those issues will be played out in the context of the immigration bill. in my point there is no point of bringing people out of the shadows only to make them second class citizens. it's all of us liberty and justice for all that has to happen. >> michael: yeah "politico" has an article out saying that there are these republican -- big doers in the republican party, that are going to give a lot more money if republicans start taking a stand that says -- that legalizes gay marriage in america. how big of factor is this, and do you believe it? >> i absolutely think there are gay republicans, some of them are my friends, that say it's tough for me.
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